My Geekhouse Woodville Update: Handsome Mud Butler Fenders and Compass Barlow Pass Tires

Fenders aren’t exactly my favorite bicycle accessory. Granted I live in Texas where it “never rains” or so it didn’t really until this year. We’ve had a very wet spring and summer, resulting in a lot of unexpected rain riding. So much so that I finally broke down and decided to ditch the big, plump tread of my Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads for some fenders and the biggest tire I could find that would fit…


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Getting rid of the Rock n Roads took a lot of convincing. After all, my Woodville was designed around them and the riding that I was planning on taking on with it. They’re just so damn smooth and incredibly durable. In fact, I just recently took this exact pair off after over a year of riding. But as previously stated, a wet few months forced me to embrace fenders, so here we are.

To make things simple, here’s a brief overview on both the fenders and the tires…

My Geekhouse Woodville Touring Bike with Fenders

Fenders
The Handsome Mud Butler fenders come in a 45mm width, but most importantly they come in black. Their hammered finish, cork washers and sleek hardware are very similar to many of the Japanese fender offerings. While I’ll usually err on the side of Japanese-made fenders, the Handsome Mud Butlers fit my Geekhouse Woodville touring bike’s aesthetics better. You know, the blackest ever black.

My Geekhouse Woodville Touring Bike with Fenders

Installation was simple. With an eyelet in the fork steerer (thanks Marty!) and standard fender mounts on the bike, they went on easily. Even after weeks of use, they’re still securely fastened and rattle free. In fact, these are some of the quietest fenders I’ve used to date. No rattles and no need to re-align them. Even after the bike’s fallen over and been locked up to crowded racks.

Now when it rains, I stay dry and when I ride the bike off-road, it cuts down on dust getting into my drivetrain. Still, if I were to ever take this bike into potentially muddy riding conditions, I’d swap them out for 43mm Rock n Roads. I don’t think there’s quite enough clearance for any sort of mud or trail debris.

My Geekhouse Woodville Touring Bike with Fenders

Tires
There are quite a few offerings for a gumwall tire on the market. Rivendell makes a few, as does Panaracer and Challenge. Having ridden most of the previously mentioned brands, I was eager to try out the Compass Cycles Barlow Pass 38mm tire. It’s reminiscent of the Gran Bois, but will still fit under a 45mm fender with enough clearance to avoid debris being lodged into the fender and annoying rub. The photos make the clearance appear to be non-existent, but there’s a good amount of room, so don’t worry. ;-)

I have to say, these tires ride like a dream. Pumping the front to around 30-35 and the rear to around 35-40 psi, I’ve found them to be smooth sailing on sealed road and gravel paths. Even in the quick downpours we experience here in Austin, the tire grips the oil-slick roads with ease. Gravel paths. No problem!

Since I don’t keep a computer on my touring bike, I have no idea how long I’ve ridden them for but after a few weeks of constant use, I’m sold on this setup.

My Geekhouse Woodville Touring Bike with Fenders

Overall
Everything on this bike has held up beyond my expectations. The White Industries VBC cranks are still going strong, as is the Phil Wood bottom bracket and SRAM drivetrain. I’ve cleaned and serviced the Chris King Classic rear hub a few times, but haven’t had to touch the SON generator hub. Recently, I spliced a Supernova rear light to the Edelux lamp and save for the lack of internal routing, it looks and works great.

After breaking a few of the Velo Orange decaleurs and not finding a system that worked, I ditched the Swift Ozete Bag for a Wald basket and cargo net. The way I look at it, I can fit a lot of crap into a Wald basket, especially when it’s lined with a tarp. If I have items that need to stay dry, I simply put them in a dry bag. Easy in, easy out. Ideally, I’d like to put a bigger basket on the bike and find someone to make a bag that suits my needs, but that’s a whole ‘nother project.

Overall, I’m very impressed with not only the longevity of the components, but the durability and consistent pleasant ride the Woodville has delivered. This bike is a dream. No creaks, no nonsense, just precision riding all around. The guys at Geekhouse really know how to make a looker that takes kindly to bookin’ around town, as well as being loaded down.

Thanks to the more than capable hands at Mellow Johnny’s for the help building it up.

Questions? Comments? Share them below…

  • D.J. Bolles

    For a minute I thought you had swapped the bar end shifters for a Genenalles set up… Is that on another bike? As for many, this is one of my favorite bikes. Everything is so dialed. Now I’m just debating on the Brooks Cambium, hmmmm…..

  • Liam Griffin

    I’ve got the Mud Butlers on my commuter and ended up making my own leather mudflap extensions, just to get a bit of extra coverage. Good looking package, made even slightly more classy with a DIY add on.

  • Benjamin Johnson

    Wow. Already have the butlers on my awol, and have been looking at those exact tires for a while. Good to know they’re working out!

  • Joe Newton

    Lookin’ for a Wald basket bag too.

    • Erik B

      The chrome front rack duffle 40 fits absolutely perfectly (to within half a cm) in a wald basket and straps down quite securely too. Roll top water proof and made in usa and all that jazz.

      • Joe Newton

        Thanks Eric. I’ll check it out.

      • Henry

        Is that the medium or the large Wald?

    • M. Lopez

      XL Setup

    • Chongler

      http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bashm-db.htm

      I use one of these. They make them size specific for medium and large Wald baskets. Works like a dream. Mine’s a bit older, and I definitely appreciate the addition of the kangaroo pouch in the new one.

      • Those are good! I’ve got something sketched out that fits my person preferences a little better. We’ll see how it turns out.

  • Fredrik

    Looks great. Been riding Barlow Pass 38mm (Standard) for a few months now and they’re without a doubt the best rolling tyres (in this width) i’ve tried so far. Zero flats too.

  • Henry

    Under what circumstances did the VO decaleurs break? I’m running one (with an Ozette) on my Cross-Check and do a reasonable amount of off-road riding, and I’d hate to think it isn’t up to the task.

    • Really rutted, rough descents would kill them. Granted I also had around 15lbs worth of camera gear in mine.

  • Raoul Morley

    I’ve seen so much written about Cambium saddles that I couldn’t believe that they’d be as good as they are, needless to say I’ve just splurged on one and it’s instantly comfortable and just lovely. The Barlow Pass tyres are the swishiest lovely carving fun I’ve ever had on a bike, just pick a road line and ride it in dreamy comfort ;0)

    • Matt O’Donnell

      I threw a Cambium on my AWOL and I just love it. I recommend them to everyone now.

      • Keris

        I was going to get one, but one of the guys at my LBS said they were a bit stiff if you are <150lbs since they don't wear in.

  • D0rk

    Bummed you had to stop rocking the Swift bag. Were the decaleurs just not handling rougher off-road conditions? Are there any other stable options to run a bag like the Ozete?

    • Yeah they’d just snap off at the welds from all the off-road riding. I could go with a berthoud but they don’t work with my stem.

      • Guy Hall

        Don’t work, as in don’t look right, or as in don’t fit? I am running a berthoud decaleur / swift ozette on my firefly, the decaleur bolts to the stem with long bolts and spacers, it should fit pretty much any ‘normal’ threadless stem setup. I have had no issues with it and find it very secure. Previous attempts with a Soma tanaka decaleur had also failed at the first root I rode over.

        • It’s the way the brake cable loops into the stem. There’s interference.

      • Mark Reimer

        Any chance you tried greasing the decaleur? I’ve been using a VO decaleur with an Ozette on my Atlantis for the last year and been riding almost exclusively on trails and gravel roads. Lots of potholes, bumps and jumps. I was leery of using the VO unit after so many people had problems. I tried two things – first making sure that the decaleur wasn’t supporting any of the bags weight by mounting it maybe 1/4″ lower than needed, and second was applying a light layer of grease occasionally, so the bag could ‘float’ a bit. Maybe I just got lucky. Anyway, love the bike!

        • Yeah I had it setup like that. I think it’s the weight of the camera equipment that caused it to break.

  • BuffyZA

    I (living in South Africa) have only ever seen one Geekhouse and it doesn’t disappoint!! This looks awesome!

  • h000k

    Where did you pick up the black Wald? I’ve never seen the standalone baskets in black.

    • Look at the rust marks in photo #2. Handlebar brackets have been removed from the basket.

  • hans

    looks like you need a new Radavist sticker. need me to send you one?

  • Froste

    Such a sweet setup, so dialed. I ride a Traitor Ruben and this bike has definitely been a lot of inspiration for my build. The Barlow Pass are awesome. They are so much fun on road and fire roads around the Bay area.
    Out of curiosity. How does the geometry doffer between this bike and your do it all cross bike. I’m dreaming about my custom do it everything rig and it would probably be similar to my Ruben but a little more steep geo.

    • JB

      If I may ask, what rack and bag are you using on this photo? Looks like a very versatile setup!

      • Froste

        A specialized globe rack attached with p-clamps with a mission workshop messenger bag strapped down with ROK straps. It is a very well working setup and not to cumbersome when not in use like other larger porteur racks. Holds camping gear and 12 packs too…

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  • Nick Teague

    What handlebars are you running?

  • Tyler Johnson

    bike looks so good dude!

  • Zac

    I’m wearing the Stamped Pass 32’s on my Cinelli Hobo. Lovely tires. Compass does some great stuff. Great looking bike. Now I know where I’ve seen it around town.

    • Ultra_Orange

      I’m rocking those as well. I can lean over until I’m scraping pedals in the rain.

      • Zac

        What pressure do you ride them at?

        • Ultra_Orange

          85psi, I’m a little over 200lbs and if I run them lower its a little too soft. But who knows maybe in the future I’ll give into the squish.

  • PNT

    love the evolution of this bike, hope we will see how it will look like in 2020 also:)

  • Cannondale

    Can someone tell me what front racks he’s using? Loving those triangles

    • It’s a custom Geekhouse randonneur rack with removable low-riders.

      • ADH

        Hey John, I’m trying to line up a custom fork and rack build and basically want to rip off this rando rack. I think the shape and style work better for this bike than the more traditional french rando look (which I’ve already got going on another bike anyway). Should I, like, ask you or Geekhouse if that’s ok, or will imitation be considered flattery in this case?

  • evilgordon

    I love this bike John. Anything you do to it makes for interesting reading. Cheers, gordon

  • Trevor H

    I’m guessing that the Supernova taillight doesn’t stay illuminated when you aren’t rolling, as the stand system for that light is based out of their headlight. Peter White is selling a Schmidt tail that has a stand system, but the aesthetic isn’t quite the same. I’ve thought about getting one myself, but other projects have continued to get in the way.. http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt-tl.asp Bike looks good though!

    • I have been meaning to switch to the Supernova headlight. Just haven’t yet. I also want to switch the tail light to a smaller gauge wire. Will probably do both at the same time.

      • Frank

        Hi John. Do you reckon the Supernova over the Edulux ii? Frank

      • Hubert d’Autremont

        John,
        I got just the tailight for you if you are interest. Comes in black, custom made housing and lense made in house. Domesticly made circuit board with stand light to work with the schmidt. The Supernova taillight is rad, but the headlight doesn’t compare to the Schmidt IMO. Let me know if you interested in trying one out, I’ll send one over when they are done.

        • So into that! Emailing you now…

        • Kevin

          Hubert, you sound like you know your lighting. Any way to customize a Schmidt to run off a battery pack (say, Light & Motion) if I don’t have a generator hub? I would very much like such a setup…

          • Hubert d’Autremont

            Hi Kevin,
            I can’t imagine it would be two hard to figure out, but I’m not totally sure why you would want to.
            The main question is whether the batter pack is 6V or 12V. The Edelux taillight is 6V and I think some of the Supernovas are 6V as well but not all.
            If you were gonna do it, jut do a supernova taillight because it doesn’t have a capacitor (ie standlight) which you don’t need for a battery pack.
            Other than that just try adding an inline switch somewhere. I’m not super good at electronics but this seems like it would be straightforward enough.

  • mr. apodaca APODACA

    my black leather walnut mud flaps look oh so metal on my black handsome fenders…

  • boomforeal

    Up next: panniers

    • I’ve reviewed the Blackburn panniers before:

      http://theradavist.com/2014/12/review-blackburns-barrier-universal-panniers/

      Scott from PR just sent me his new micro panniers, which I’ve yet to use.

      • boomforeal

        correction/clarifcation: up next, rear panniers

        • never!!!

          • boomforeal

            as in, “it never rains”?

          • No, I have toured enough to realize rear-loading is miserable. ;-)

          • Luis

            hhmmm…really?

          • Yes, really. On a mid-trail bike, designed for front loading, it’s the best route.

          • Luis

            I hear you, I have my surly ogre set up with a front rack too. Takes me a little bit getting used to the steering when loaded but I think it’s better than having the bike popping wheelies while biking on steep climbs.
            Also, how do you like those WI cranks? I’m rocking the MI6 hubs and it’s delightful going for rides.

  • I’m picturing that Wald basket being really noisy. Is it not?

  • Saul

    what is this pump ?

  • Jamie McKeon

    what a spot to shoot a bike!

  • Cyclo McKenzie

    In its previous setup, this was one of my fave bikes on your site. Still cool now though.

    Sorry if I’m spelling out what’s to be read in between the lines, but the comments on the longevity of the parts rubbed me a peculiar way: Why shouldn’t those cranks hold up? You’ve been riding this bike for what, 10 months? A year? Next to how many other bikes? Any crankset that would have given you issues at all by now can be simply labelled as crap. But actually, I’ve got an idea about the quality of WI-cranks, as I’ve ridden a couple, so it might actually be worth mentioning that they are still going strong.
    Well, as for the need for servicing a hub “a few times” that comes with a price tag of 399 and is “the ultimate in lightweight, high performance, long lasting”(CK promo)…

    Thanks for the site!

    • Ive had this bike for over two years and its the bike I ride the most, without a doubt. I’ve done many, multi-day tours and camping trips on it and I ride it every day, all over town.

      The Chris King marketing you quote is the R45, not the Classic Hub and I service it to ensure hub longevity. It’s like lubing a chain. If you don’t lube it, or you ride cross-chain, you’ll wear through components fast. I like to keep my bikes running smoothly. Especially after the rainy winter / spring / summer we’ve had.

      Some people (on the internet) have complained about the WI VBC cranks “wearing out” or creaking, so I addressed that I’ve had zero issues to quell any commentary that would (maybe inevitably) arise.

      • Cyclo McKenzie

        Thanks, after I posted I saw that this beauty first appeared here in June 2013. And thanks for going a bit into detail – I really like the design of WI cranks but have “worn out” three pairs of Enos. The alum’s just too soft imho. Shame. Love the look on the VBCs, hope they will last you a long time.

      • Kilo Compagnie

        just curious that u chose Phil over WI bottom bracket.

  • mrbiggs

    I’ve always assumed one needs knobbies for off-road riding. I’ve been looking at the Barlow 38s but didn’t really understand where they’re useful. The thinking being if I want a road tire, I want 25-28. If I want a big off-road tire, it should be a knobby CX thing like my Knards or the Clement USH. The Barlows are okay with the dirt? Especially the wet dirt?

  • simonnix

    Obligatory SON hub/TRP lever/Cambium saddle love comment.

    Also, I wish someone made OBB 2-piece cranks that looked anywhere near as cool as those White Industries do…

    • Henry

      Have you checked out the Sugino OX601D? About as good a 2-piece crank as I’ve ever seen, along with really good ring choices and brifter compatibility.

      • simonnix

        Interesting. I’d seen the 801D a while back, but the price had put me off. Still can’t quite figure out if standard chainrings will do for replacements, or if you need proprietary ones for that inboard setup. Might look into it. Cheers.

  • Zach

    Great bicycle! I’ve been following this one since you got it and will admit it has been a source of inspiration for me and my favorite bike.

  • Hikyle2

    do you think platforms are the best way to go for a bike like that or do you switch pedals often? I’m starting to get pretty frustrated riding around town with toe clips.

    • I just ride platforms. Even when touring. I haven’t put clipless on this bike is some time now.

  • Hey, what front rack is that? very nice!

    Eric at Inside Line Equipment makes a sweet waterproof rack bag.

    Cheers,
    Max

  • Matthew Vidakovich

    is this the same saddle you reviewed back in 2013, or did you end up getting a c15? i’m guessing you’re pretty happy with it or it wouldn’t have made it onto the bike. wondering if you have anything of note to mention long-term wise with it.

    • simonnix

      If the C15 is anything like my C17 Carved, I’d strongly recommend using loctite on all of those fake rivets (they’re actually sleeve nuts and torx bolts). They have a habit of coming loose. Otherwise, Cambiums are pretty sweet.

      • Mine have never come loose and I’ve been riding a pre-production model for over a year.

        • simonnix

          Could be I’m fatter than you, or a sloppier pedaller. Probably both.

          Either way, happened to one of my two Cambiums, happened to my local Brooks dealer and their test C15. It’s a thing that /may/ happen.

  • swm

    How lovely. My Barlow 38s should be arriving tomorrow. Excited to
    mount up for general road and mountain exploration on my all-road build.

    Will be keeping the Clement X’Plors for rough rides, though. Example below’s from a solo trip in Cache Valley Wilderness area, UT.

  • Bryan

    John… this is crucial. Is that a camo painted front pannier?

  • J.

    Hey, what model sram barcons are you using? Still a bit confused as to which would work best with 10sp rear mtb for touring. 500 Aero?

  • Márton Sógor

    This bike loves you.

  • ZianStudios

    great tire choice. I’ve got the 42cm gran bois on my rando and they ride, as you say, like a dream.

  • Fürst Pückler

    Nice ride! Looks even more complete with those fenders. I am just wondering how you use the front basket without a kickstand. Not that i am a fan of those things but i would def. miss it on a bike with a front basket…

  • Lewy

    Great looking bike. I am really liking the colour combo. Thinking one of my bikes needs to be olive drab

  • Kyle Wood

    Hey John,
    What is that camo bar tape? I am in need…

  • charlesojones

    I still love cantis

  • How did you set up gear routing on a handlebar? Did you drill handlebar or just wrap it under tape? I noticed that you changed this from initial setup.

  • Rem

    Have you tried out putting these fenders over Surly Knard tires? I’m worried about clearance and thought you might have tried pairing the two up.

    • I am not a fan of those tires, so no. ;-)

  • Mario

    Are the fenders easily removed? I’m also averse to fenders, so I would like to take them off when a long sunny spell is predicted!