2015 NAHBS: Fat Chance Yo Eddy! Hardtail 29r

He’s back. Eddy’s back. Well, Fat Chance is back and the by-product of a successful Kickstarter launch, Yo Eddy! has returned as well. The spirit and soul of Fat Chance has been resurrected and the modern rendition will leave you all antsy.

A lot has changed since Chris Chance shut down his company. Full suspension, dropper posts, disc brakes, hell, steel has been forgotten by the industry – for the most part. When beginning to understand what the market wanted, Chris kept the modus operandi the same as it’s always been: build bikes that are fun to ride and still highly shreddable.

That’s where we’re at with the Yo Eddy!

Dropper post, 44mm head tube, tight rear end and ample tire clearances. This model in particular is 1x thanks to SRAM and is stiff at the feet with WTB’s first ever carbon, tubeless rim. I’m in heaven! Fluoro, trail illuminating heaven. I don’t know about you, but I’m stoked to see this brand making a comeback.

A few notes: this bike is the first sample. The 433mm chainstays are the same as the 27.5 bike. For production, they will be lengthened. Also, Fat Chance is waiting on custom drawn stays for production, so they’ll change a bit as well.

Hopefully you guys got on that pre-order… I’m kicking myself!

  • holy short stays batman! limited to 2.25″ tires?

    • Not sure. I’d like to know what they actually measure. They look HUGE in person. There’s about 3/16″ of space in there. So just over 1/8″

      • John: According to the measurement chart via Fat Chance’s website, they measure 433mm for both the 29″ and 27.5″ (433mm = ~17.047″)

      • Tony Clifton

        I dunno, it looks like those prototype stays weren’t built to the specs on the website (kinda like your Rosko). I mean, 17″ stays with a 72.5 seat angle and mid-knob 29×2.25 should yield better tire clearance than that – it seems like it would be difficult to stuff a 2×10 front derailleur in there. That said, I’m quite sure Chris will get it all sorted out on the production models – I had a ’94 Yo Eddy and it was pretty bad ass.

  • tylernol

    very nice! Who/where is he fabbing them?

    • Santana for now, until Chris gets his shop running.

      • Andrew Groom

        I was really looking forward to buying one. Then the outrageous prices were issued, along with scant information. For what? Ventana weld a nice set of pipes, but I don’t see anything special here to justify the cost. I don’t see anything unique. The small parts (especially the disc mount) look decidedly bog standard. Single colour paintjob. I am sure it is nice, but ‘wickedly’ over priced.

        • Fat Chance Bikes

          We appreciate the comments Andrew and the production version will come down in price. With regards the production method, it’s really very similar to Fat City at its peak where Chris specced the tubing and designed the frames with a team of welders working for him. In this case the only difference is that it’s not actually welded in our own premises, but the result is we hope very true to the original ethos of Fat Chance with modern up to date frame features.

          • Andrew Groom

            These days provenance matters and you can’t fool the customer. Paying a huge premium for the first batch for some stickers and a t-shirt when the frame is fairly bog standard just won’t work. Chris has re-entered a different market with a very different proposition to the one that he left all of those years back. I lusted after a Fat last time around. I was ready to indulge myself this time around. But it has lost the essence of what it was, and therefore the right to charge a premium. Even the decals are lacquered over the plastic backing sheet rather than water transfers. I appreciate that Chris wanted to go down the crowd funding route rather than borrow the capital up front. I appreciate that he wanted to avoid some of last time’s business model errors. But expecting the first adopters to fund the tooling and set up rather than rewarding them and amortizing the set up costs over the later production runs is a bit transparent and lacks a bit of integrity. What those first adopters will be left with is an over priced version of what customers who wait and purchase a production bike might get. Not good. Unfortunately the money I had waiting to invest in a new Fat has gone on a Cielo. A similar batch built bike, made in the US with US materials, with some unique ‘machined-in-house’ touches, single speed or geared capability, the ability to run wider tyres and vary the wheelbase all at a significantly lower cost. Looking at the NAHBS pictures, I see that the stand is predictably packed with first generation Fats. This only serves to highlight what made them so amazing and unique first time around, and under the same roof as some genuinely innovative, unique modern competition. I wish Chris the best of luck. I will always have a soft spot for the brand. I have a garage full of high end US built boutique bikes. I am happy to pay a premium for provenance. But spending this kind of money on a retro painted third party batch built bike just doesn’t justify it. I know that this all sounds negative, but I am just so disappointed!

  • Tyler Morin

    I really like the paint scheme and looks of this bike. Is the rear tire as close to the seat tube in real life as it looks in the picture? Also, forgive me if this is a stupid question but that wheelbase looks super short, is that a function of the size of the bike or are they all short?

    • I’ve only seen two, this one which has some plump tires and a 27.5 rigid, with a slightly longer wheelbase. This 29r looks like it’d be a blast to ride…

      • Tyler Morin

        No doubt, I totally agree that it looks like a blast to ride for sure!

  • Nice!

    One thing that’s been bothering me on a few steel frames lately – the exposed loop of cable for the internal dropper routing. Down there between the seat tube and down tube. My new bike has the same routing, but I’m going to use the KS Lev external. Since the cable is mounted at the collar, it will hide completely behind the seat tube and top tube.

  • Tyler Morin

    In regards to the pre-order I just feel like it was a lot of money to put down without some of the important details. I feel like that If they would have had these two (the bikes you’ve seen) as samples of what you could get I think a lot more people would have felt comfortable plunking down the money for them imo.

  • earle.b

    Rear tire clearance to seat tube looks pretty tight. Should have passed on the bloated tires/rim combo, detracts from the bike. Looks like a design error.

    • It’s a first sample, the same stays were used while they’re awaiting custom drawn stays.

      • earle.b

        Any idea what tubing will be used? With all the talked about made in USA I’d assume True Temper.

        • Fat Chance Bikes

          That’s right, True Temper with custom tube profiles specified by Chris.

  • mike house

    Looks really nice, but then again so do many of the bikes from the countless unknown builders out there who get no recognition. Having never ridden a Chris Chance frame what makes his bikes different than others?

    • gilligoon

      I rode an original Fat Chance for many years and it was a sublime climber and descender back in the fully rigid days of yore. oversize, thinwall, non-tapered tubing. thick powder coating. obsessivie attention to welding detail.

  • peterherman

    Dear God, that is beautiful.

  • Fat Chance Bikes

    @John thanks for the clarification on all the details below, yes chainstays are prototype and the production frame will have a custom drawn longer chainstay.

    We’re expecting to confirm the final spec of the production frameset and make it available for pre-order soon on FatChanceBicycles.com

  • misterdangerpants

    It just seems like there’s something missing. I can’t quite put my finger on it. I’m a huge Fat City Cycles fan and have owned a 1991 Wicked and a 1992 Yo Eddy, and was interested to see what the next generation would look like. Curious to see how the 27.5 version looks.

    • Jeff A

      The bullet stays. That’s what’s missing. :D

  • 433mm doesn’t seem especially short for a 29er. My Chromag has a 429mm / 16.9″ chainstay and feels great. Likely a steeper seat tube angle than the Fat Chance and the seat tube also meets the bottom bracket slightly forward of the center line. Little details, but the Chromag easily fits a 2.5″ 29 in the back. Things like this do come down to personal preference, though, and there is such a thing as too short in my mind. The Kona Honzo can be run as short as 414mm and I much prefer my Chromag’s geo after riding a Honzo.

    • Honzo is curved seat tube tho…

      • Oh for sure, I feel like the Chromag is a good example of a straight tube with a sub-430 chainstay, so in comparison to the Yo Eddy I have to guess that it’s in the seat tube angle and where it meets the bb. I’m interested to find out how much longer the stays end up on the production bike.

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    S O D A M N G O O D

  • greg romero

    any pics of the full rigid?

  • Jay Elling

    diggin the dark BG in these nahbs pics, dough they could use a little hairlight for separation…

    • Limited resources man. Doing the best I can.

  • btdubs

    Interrupted shift housing on the top tube… haven’t seen that on a MTB for a while! Rad.

  • velomonkey

    Almost ten years ago Guns N Roses made a big comeback. Never really liked them before, but appreciated them and was curious to see/hear what they had. BIG Letdown. Just saying . . . .

    • GnR was always a shitty band dude. Always.

      • Lawrence Edmund

        speaking the truth, john. thank you

      • velomonkey

        So you’re saying chance was always a shitty brand???? Bro, this stuff aint easy.

        • You’re apology was horrible.

          • velomonkey

            ^^^^^ “Only great minds can afford a simple style.” Seeing as you used “You’re” it’s obvious you can not afford much style, but I digress.

          • I’m sorry. I just spent 3 days shooting bikes and talking to builders, only to have a troll make an irrelevant comparison. Use YOUR real name and face or take YOUR opinion and go to one of 1000 other sites that don’t matter and bitch about someone trying to actually DO something.

            Let’s see you’re photos or “style”, dude. Or are you just a coward who lies in the shadows, critiquing everyone?

          • velomonkey

            A few housekeeping items. I never critiqued your site or the work. Long time reader first time poster. But I appreciate the warm welcome. I’m sure it will help the radavist, become, well, more rad. I also visit tens of other bikes sites and always post under velomonkey – it’s a handle I’ve had for about 18 years. Never grabbed it for twitter, though. With the above in mind my handle is used at instagram (don’t really post there), pinterest (another place I don’t post), pace line (do post there), velocipede salon and others.

            If outing me somehow makes the conversation in your mind better – so be it – it’s fairly easy to find me given my use of one handle. Patrick McQuown. My rides are easy to find, too. Right now I am rolling on a all Ti Firefly with Record mechanical and a Merckx San Remo 76 with Record EPS.

            Did my union card pass?

            Now, back to the actual content of our little disputation: Seeing as we have a first look at a bike here with stays that are 27.5 and that the actual stays for a 29er are going to be longer . . . .well, Mr. Chance is doing himself a disservice by showing that. If you want to argue otherwise, go right ahead, it’s your site.

  • -Steven

    That topo map detail on the logo of the WTB rims is Wicked!! [in keeping with the New England theme]