Raleigh’s TI Team Replica Nov 12, 2012

Now this looks real good! Raleigh’s TI Team Replica is already 50% sold out, just via the pre-orders and it’s easy to see why. Here’s the scoop:

“Celebrating more than a century of producing performance bikes for athletes at the highest level; this is a replica of the bike used by our world dominating TI-RALEIGH TEAM bike of the early 1980s. The frame and fork are 100% Raleigh designed, manufactured using Reynolds 525 tubing and equipped with Campagnolo groupset and Cinelli bars and stem to recall the era as best possible.”

Raleigh UK

  • PONDORO51

    THE COLOR IS THE SAME ,THE TUBING IS WRONG AND THE COMPANY DIVISION WHO MADE THESE ARE LONG GONE .THE TUBING WAS 753 AND THE BIKES WERE MADE BY RALEIGH ILKESTON SBDU NOT AT NOTTINGHAM ,UNDER THE WATCHFUL EYE OF GERALD O’DELL .ALL WERE CUSTOM MADE FOR EACH RIDER AND WERE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IF YOU COULD AFFORD THEM .QUITE A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THIS OFFEREING IS NOT EVEN CLOSE PROBABLY MADE IN CHINA OPR TAIWAN .

    PONDORO NY

    • Duke

      fix your caps lock key, bro.

      • PONDORO51

        WHY ?

        • http://theradavist.com John Watson

          Bad etiquette

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004580741496 Sitars Rock

    Raleigh made the TI team livery frame in 531 also, depended on the riders needs and weight. These were made as SBDU and off the shelf frames, made in Nottingham. I have both and there’s little difference between the two: both are very well made and beautiful. I cannot image the new frame is quite the same thing, true, but it’s good to see the livery be aired again as a reminder to the past.

    • Sandgrounder

      As far as I can remember anything made with 531 tubing, or above, was, at least in the late 70′s onwards, made at the SBDU, which I think was a part of the old Carlton factory. This included the off the peg frames and bikes, but also the much rarer custom stuff. This changed with the continued contraction of the Raleigh empire, and with the introduction of Reynolds 501 tubing. The SBDU did still exist into the early 90′s building the Ti (as in titanium) ranges. I may be wrong, but I’m sure both yours were made in the same place.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004580741496 Sitars Rock

        No. I’ve seen Raleigh Professionals (531 tubing) in the TI Team Livery, definitely not SBDU, and usually was called the ‘Team Professional’ or ‘Team Replica’ or similar. I’ve also owned a 1979 variant of one, again, NOT SBDU, WH serial number.

        • Sandgrounder

          It is all such a long time ago, and my memory is fuzzy, but this is not the way they were sold to us in the UK retail channel at the time. I can’t remember frame numbers of the bikes I owned, but W’s do ring a bell.

          Everything with partial 531 tubing up was advertised as being ‘connected’ with the SBDU in the time period I was actively involved with Raleigh (82-85). We were always led to believe these frames were built there, but where complete bikes were assembled was a little vague. My visits to the factory was always Nottingham, and there was never any good stuff on the floor, but despite Raleigh downsizing the place was vast with bits of units scattered all over Nottingham, though Ilkeston was the only other place they advertised, Carlton’s Worksop? place had gone by then.

          I can’t speak for the US or European markets, these were always strictly off limits for the retail channel (I suspect they thought we’d complain at the spec or something), but Raleigh as a company was still a giant with so much legacy it was amazing. By the time I dealt with them again in the period 92-95 there really was not that much left, but the SBDU was still where the team stuff and the M-Trax/Dynatech ranges originated.

          The one thing Raleigh was good at in the period was marketing, so it maybe true that even the Raleigh dealers were being ‘sold’ an alternate reality.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004580741496 Sitars Rock

            This is a good reference: http://radpropaganda.org/raleigh-team-pro-timeline/raleigh-team-trauma-professional/

            A few Team replicas there and they were available in the UK. Basically, they’re Team Livery Professionals, it’s just paint really! W serial mean they were made at Worksop, I’ve owned at least two of these models.

          • Sandgrounder

            Oh wow. Now I’ve really gone back in time.

            The frame number info is interesting, I’ve got that filed for future reference, in fact I’m meeting a friend tonight who has an 80′s Gran Sport, and a Record Ace. 

            I also remembered I rode that team livery for years on a fixed machine that I threw together as a get to work machine when I was very strapped for cash. I found it tucked away at the back of the shop around ’92, NOS, possibly a warranty replacement that never got exchanged, no idea of the year, but it was a gas pipe version. Set it up fixed when no one new what fixed was, and just rode it until it had rotted away.

            Strange how something I used everyday had faded from memory.

  • Sandgrounder

    “New Chopper” again?

    This is sooooo wrong. I saw a mint, genuine ’84 version come up on eBay earlier this year. It was pointed out by a friend, and unfortunately neither of us had the money at a quarter of this price.

    But I do have a genuine ’73 Chopper stashed :-)

    • http://theradavist.com John Watson

      Why is it wrong?

      • Sandgrounder

        Because it is a bad copy of the original, and 2K would buy a lot of a good bike, be it something with a real pedigree, or a decent road bike to just ride.

        I may be wrong, my friend loved this, and I really thought he’d hate it, but I’ve too many fond memories of the original to let this pass without comment. I worked in retail selling Raleigh product between ’84-86, and I could not quite afford this then, but sold/built serviced a few.

        The original 753 Team Replica was a lovely machine, but was frowned on by most of the roadies back then, they wanted custom built stuff, even if it meant older/lower spec stuff. Off the peg bikes had not caught on at the time in the UK, unless it was Italian. There was also a moderately popular budget bike in the same colour way that really did not help the Team Replica shout ‘quality’ from more than 50 yards away.

        As the other posters said, the stuff that came out of the SBDU “was” special, and I can’t see this as being quite the same, but it is nice to see it as a blast from the past, and if the run is 50% sold out then it looks like a success.

        • PONDORO51

          I totally agree the TI Raleigh period was about making the best frames to win races and Raleigh was serious about it then ,you know winning races on the road and the track .Also bikes were made for Olympic athetes events .This offering pales in comparrision and would not give a purchaser the real experience of what was offered back then .The SBDU had the only licenced workers able to work on 753 but most of the bikes out of Ilkeston were 531. 753 was not popular as it was so easy to dent as it was  paper thin . 

  • Kidcicli

    What does “TI” mean in Ti-raleigh? It cant be titanium rite? Sorry im a kid.thanks in advance.

    • Sandgrounder

      Ti was Tube Investments, a holding company that Raleigh, Reynolds and various other companies were involved in at the time. It always seem to form a second tier with everything Raleigh were using promotion wise.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI_Group  

      Amazed me to find they still exist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/donald.gillies Donald William Gillies

    They obviously spared no expense, going with innovative seamed chromoly tubing and campy’s renowned “Veloce” groupset (“Veloce” means “Speed” so it MUST be fast!)

    • http://www.facebook.com/donald.gillies Donald William Gillies

      Rumor has it that these are labeled “SSB1 … SSB125″ for “super-special build”, and they were all made by renowned framebuilder, Huffy of Ohio.